Sunday, November 29, 2009

Was Jesus the eldest or youngest of his brothers (ie Joseph/Mary's other sons)?

Was Jesus the eldest or youngest of his brothers (ie Joseph/Mary's other sons)?



If I'm mistaken about him having 'brothers' then please tell me where my misconception may have arisen - as in where I might have got this idea that Joseph and Mary had other sons.



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Yes, Jesus is the oldest among the children of Joseph and Mary. It was written in the new testament that Jesus have brothers and sisters.



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Even if you hold the position that Jesus had actual siblings (I don't), they couldn't have been older. Because then Jesus would have been born to a non-virgin.
He sure didn't have any older siblings by Joseph and Mary!
He was the eldest. They were engaged when he was born.
I don't know if He had siblings or not...but...He was born of a virgin. I'm sure that you can figure it out from there.
He was the eldest because Mary was a virgin when Christ was born.
Jesus was the eldest brother in a family of at least 5 boys and 2 girls.



The names of Jesus four younger brothers are listed in Matthew 13:55 and 56.



We know Jesus had at least 2 sisters, but the Bible does not tell us how many sisters.



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he was the first child
i think it says somewhere in the New Testament that Jesus had siblings. but it only gets as specific as brothers and sisters. i think it was when he was on the cross. somewhere in there. but don't take my word for it cause i'm not sure. but other then that he has siblings we don't know.
He was the oldest. His brothers names were James, Joseph, Judas and Simon. In Hebrew: Ya'aqob, Yahuda, Yoseph and Shimon. Of course Jesus' names was Yeshua.
Some believe that Joseph was a widower, so he may have had some older step-siblings. Whatever you believe, though, he could not have any biological siblings older than himself as Mary and Joseph were only betrothed when he was conceived.
Jesus was the only son born of Mary, she was a virgin.



Those referred to as brothers %26amp; sisters may have been kin.



It's possible that Joseph had other previous wives.



They may also have been cousins, Jews did not distinguish.
He was the eldest. He was born of a virgin, but Mary did not remain one. She and Joseph had normal relations and had at least four other sons and two daughters. The Bible named four brothers and mentioned sisters, meaning at least two. Since there is no mention of Joseph during the ministry of Jesus, there is a good possibility he had died before then.
According to the Gospels, Jesus was the oldest. As to the debate over only child/many children, the Catholic-Lutheran Consultation on Union commissioned a group of Catholic, Lutheran, non-Lutheran Protestant and Orthodox theologians to prepare a joint document on Mary in the New Testament. One of the questions was the siblings question. The conclusion was that scripture is actually silent on the question. Certain passages are nonsensical if Jesus had siblings, yet other passages only make sense if he did. Because the Hebrew and Greek used for brothers also referred to cousins and could even be used for non-relatives in some circumstances, being called a brother could actually mean Mary's or Joseph's siblings' children.



At best, the New Testament is inconsistent. However, if you venture outside the NT to early Christian writings, there are no siblings. The closest is James the Brother of the Lord, who does not appear to be a child of Mary.
I believe that Jesus was the oldest child of Mary and Joseph. I know that Catholics teach that Jesus's siblings were his half brothers and sisters from a prior marriage of Joseph's, but I've never seen that in the Bible. I don't believe Mary and Joseph lived together without intercourse after Jesus birth, but the Catholics do.
Matthew 13:53 - 57 (NIV) 53When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there. 54Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. 55“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” 57And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”
Jesus was the oldest of Mary's sons. And then Mary and Joseph biologically had other children. Including James. I dont know the rest...but one of his brother's was James. Jesus was the oldest.
Jesus was the eldest of his siblings. Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Later, in Galatians 1:19, it mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood siblings.
Jesus was the son of Mary, a virgin; his father is/was God the Father who caused her to be "with child" by the Holy Spirit so, Joseph was, actually, a step-father to Jesus. After Jesus' birth Joseph and Mary had other children - see Bible Book of Matthew chapter 13 verse 55 (link below). This is, also, in the Gospel of Mark. James and Jude were Jesus' step-brothers.
In order for mary to have been a "virgin" then jesus had to have been the first born.



yes there is a verse in the bible that mentions jesus's brothers and names them - Simon, Jose, and James (the ones I can remember).



as for them being step siblings (thats a laugh) - the bible does not identify them as step brothers - only as brothers. Step brothers will imply that one of the parents had been previously married. So if it wasnt mary (cos she had to be a virgin) - then it must be joseph. Again the bible makes NO mention of joseph being a widower (the only way he could have legally been remarried - there was no divorce in those days).



You gotta think about this LOGICALLY.



Christians all believe that the Bible is LITERALLY true. And they beleive that the bible cannot be added to. So the word step-brothers has NOT been added to the bible - why not? because it was not true.
Jesus was the eldest. because if he was younger mary wouldn't be a virgin when he was born
Catholic and Orthodox Christians believe Mary was ever-virgin and that Jesus did not have biological siblings. Nowhere in the Bible is Mary identified as being the mother of anyone other than Jesus, nor is anyone other than Jesus identified as being her child. Protestants point to Matthew 13:55, but it doesn't say those brothers are the biological children of Mary. Furthermore, according to this same verse, Jesus is the son of Joseph. Protestants don't take that to mean he is the biological father of Jesus, so for them to see this verse as proof the brothers are biological brothers is illogical. I myself have brothers that are not the biological children of my mother.



“Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?” (Matthew 13:55)



http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/ev...



http://www.ewtn.com/faith/Teachings/mary...
He was the first born, after the virgin Mary had been abducted by aliens, and artificially insemenated.



Joseph was responcible for all the others.
Jesus’ Family—Who Were They?



IN MANY parts of the world, during December you often see scenes of the infant Jesus in the tender care of his mother, Mary, and his adoptive father, Joseph. Such family scenes may attract even those who do not profess to be Christians. Since the focus is on Jesus, what do the Scriptures tell us about Jesus’ human family?



Jesus had a most interesting family background. He was born to a virgin named Mary, thus becoming a member of the human family. According to the Bible, his life was transferred from heaven to Mary’s womb through holy spirit. (Luke 1:30-35) Before the miraculous conception of Jesus was announced, Mary had become engaged to a man named Joseph, who was thus to become Jesus’ adoptive father.



After Jesus’ birth, Joseph and Mary had other children, Jesus’ half brothers and sisters. That is evident from the question inhabitants of Nazareth later asked about Jesus: “Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us?” (Matthew 1:25; 13:55,?56; Mark 6:3) We can conclude from this that Jesus’ immediate family consisted of his parents, four brothers, and at least two sisters.



However, some today do not believe that Jesus’ brothers and sisters were children of Joseph and Mary. Why? “The Church,” says the New Catholic Encyclopedia, “from its earliest days taught that Mary was always a virgin. In view of this, then, there can be no doubt that Mary did not have any other children.” The same reference work claims that the words “brother” and “sister” can refer to “some one or ones united in a religious or other common bond” or to relatives, perhaps cousins.



Is that really the case? Even some Catholic theologians, disagreeing with the traditional doctrine, support the view that Jesus had fleshly brothers and sisters. John P. Meier, former president of the Catholic Bible Association of America, wrote: “In the N[ew] T[estament] adelphos [brother], when used not merely figuratively or metaphorically but rather to designate some sort of physical or legal relationship, means only full or half-brother, and nothing else.” Yes, the Scriptures indicate that Jesus had brothers and sisters who were born to Joseph and Mary.



The Gospels mention other relatives of Jesus, but let us now focus on Jesus’ immediate family and see what we can learn from them.
No real evidence that he ever existed. Certainly wasn't born of a virgin called Mary even if he did.



Maybe it would be a good idea to read a science book instead.

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